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Falun Gong, Nostradamus et calendrier Maya

Attention sujet sensible. Cette discussion peut porter atteinte aux convictions et à la sensibilité d'un certain groupe de personnes. Un esprit ouvert, mature, sage et serein est requis à sa lecture et lors d'une éventuelle intervention.
Dynastie Qing
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24/06/2011 à 10:56 - Falun Gong, Nostradamus et calendrier Maya
Je poste ce sujet sensible (j'ai coché la case qui va bien, encore merci Daweide !) en toute connaissance de cause car je pense qu'il s'agit d'un phénomène sociologique intéressant.

C'est aussi un moyen pour moi de poser une question et peut être d'obtenir une réponse.

Sachant que le Falun Gong est une organisation en partie basée sur la croyance en une possible apocalypse, je me suis demandé comment la prophétie apocalyptique Maya censée prédire la fin du monde en 2012 était intégrée dans le Falun Dafa.
Il est claire que si je me suis posé la question, c'est évidement en me demandant quelle réponse improbable j'allais pouvoir trouver. Je n'ai nullement besoin de sauver mon âme d'ici 2012, la réponse n'a d'importance pour moi que pour ma connaissance du mouvement Falun Gong.

Et je suis finalement tombé sur le message suivant, dans lequel un pratiquant de Falun Dafa explique, sur un forum apocalyptique dédié à la prophétie de 2012, que Li Hongzhi, le fondateur du Falun Gong, aurait interprété Nostradamus pour assoir un des principes de sa futur organisation.

Nostradamus aurait prédit le début de la persécution du Falun Gong par le PCC ("Le grand roi de la terreur" ou encore "le mal").

Pour ce qui est de l'apocalypse prévue en 2012 par les adeptes de la prophétie Maya, le calendrier du Falun Gong semble avoir tenu compte dans un premier temps de cette date comme limite lointaine pour la "Fa-rectification".

Je crois qu'il y a là matière à recherche, car je me demande si ce message reflète réellement une position officielle ou n'est que la prose d'un adepte un peu exalté.
Quelque soit la réponse à cette question, par désir d'information, j'ai eu envie de partager avec vous ce texte si particulier.

(désolé de ne pas traduire l'intégralité du texte, je ne pense pas avoir le niveau nécessaire pour le faire sans en changer quelque peu le sens ou sans interpréter, donc déformer, les propos de l'auteur).

Hi everyone!

Here I will tell you a little bit about Falun Gong and Nostradamus prophecy and how it is all connected.

First the background:

I am a Falun Gong(Falun Dafa) practitioner that would like to introduce this great practice here that has very much implication in the predestined events coming up soon in the world.

Falun Gong is based on "Truthfulness, Compassion and Forbearance" in real life. It is no religion and has no religious forms such as buildings, priests, membership or fees. Anyone can come and go as he or she wishes to.

In july 1999(see Nostradamus prophecy!) the CCP(Chinese Communis Party) started massive persecution of Falun Dafa(FD) practitioners in China calling it an "evil cult". Anyone who has any idea of what Falun Dafa really is about know that is a massive lie from evil people who are afraid of loosing power in China to any organization that attracts many people and want to raise their moral and spirits.

Falun Dafa is a practice which aims at cultivating your heart and mind while staying "normal" in society, keeping a job and a family. Self-cultivation means that you try to get rid of your attachments to worldly matters like money, power, self, material posessions, sex, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, pornography, jealousy, competition etc etc. By cultivating in this practice you will get stronger, healthier and more happy.

In Falun Dafa everything is for free, all books are free for download, the exercises can be learned on Youtube and group exercise is for free. Everyone is welcome and anyone can do it at home or in group practice. Most important is to put it into action in everyday life.

Try these links if you want to learn more:

The book Zhuan Falun:

The main FD site:

The best "Falun Dafa" show you can see: - this show is aimed at bringing traditional Chinese culture back and making people realize that Falun Dafa is good.

At the moment more than 100 million people practice despite the persecution in China.

Secondly, Master Li Hongzhi is the founder of Falun Dafa and a man of incomparable wisdom(in my opinion) and compassion, he presented FD in 1992 as a way of helping people lift themselves up before the predestined great catastrophe arrives in this dimension. His original time schedule for "Fa-rectification" was 1992-2012(!) but it has been delayed a bit since the CCP started massive persecution of Falun Dafa people in China. Anyway, time is pressing....

He also gave us the Nostradamus prophecy interpretation in a very concrete way that differs from other interpretations.

I will give you his intrepretations below:

In Reference to a Prophecy

Disciples: What is currently unfolding in China was previously arranged in history, and many people throughout history prophesied this. They chose not to articulate the matter directly so as to both conform to the deluded way the world is and to warn its people. Therefore, everyday people are only able to realize the meaning of a prophecy after history has come to pass.

For example, with regard to what is happening in China, Nostradamus, the Frenchman, stated the following in his book of prophecy, Centuries, hundreds of years ago:

In the year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror,
In order to bring back to life the great king of Angolmois,
Before and after Mars reigns in the name of bringing people happiness.1

What he said about "the year 1999, seventh month, From the sky will come a... Terror, In order to bring back to life the... king..." refers precisely to a few people with ulterior motives in the Central Committee of the CCP using their power to initiate a comprehensive, vicious suppression of Dafa and Dafa disciples. They have arrested people, beaten people, sent people to labor camps, sentenced people to jail, and destroyed the books; they have used the army, the police, secret agents, and diplomatic means; and they have used all radio stations, television stations, and the press to spread lies and carry out the persecution in a villainous fashion. Its overwhelming magnitude seems to threaten to bring down the heavens, while their evilness has spread throughout the entire world. With degenerate notions, the old forces arranged this for the purpose of "examining" Dafa in a destructive manner. The process of Master's Fa-rectification among humans is, as Gods see it, just like a process of resurrection.

As to the sentence "before and after Mars reigns," it means to say that [Karl] Marx is ruling the world before and after the year 1999. Actually, not only those societies ruled by the vile communist party are now practicing Marxism. The social welfare system and its kin adopted by the developed countries of the world are also wicked communist things within capitalism. Those appear to be free societies, yet it seems that the whole world is in fact practicing communism. People who come to the developed countries in the West from countries ruled by the evil communists share one impression: "It feels like communism here, except they don't advocate violent revolution."

With regard to the last part, "in the name of bringing people happiness," this refers to the vile communist party's idea of liberating all of humankind, as well as to Western society's sustaining social welfare through heavy taxation.

Since this matter is still in the process of being concluded, I am only deciphering these several sentences. As a matter of fact, prophecies concerning this time period have circulated in many countries. The few remarks above are only for reference.

Li Hongzhi
June 28, 2000

In addition we know from Nostradamus next sentences that the struggle between good(Falun Dafa) and evil(CCP) would last up to 27 years. However, that should probably be taken as a figurative number. The "Fa-rectification" will happen in two phases and phase two("the Fa rectifies the world", "the Fa" means "The law") is a phase where evil people will be weeded out from this world.

I hope this will make some people in here think twice. I invite everyone to ask questions about Falun Dafa, especially in case they have heard some negative things that the CCP has spread widely. In case you do not believe in Falun Dafa and only want to stay normal that is fine too. What is important is to remember that the CCP is wrong in persecuting, organ harvesting and slaughtering the FD practitioners. Also remember that "Falun Dafa is good" no matter if you are a practitioner or not.

Any good person can sign on "Truthfulness, Compassion, Forbearance" which is the fundamental rule in FD.

Later I will explain a little bit more what Master Li Hongzhi says about the "great catastrophe" arriving. One thing at a time.

Thank you for your time

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24/06/2011 à 11:17 - Falun Gong, Nostradamus et calendrier Maya
Oui c'est en effet une discussion intéressante.

Il est clair que quoi qu'il arrive fin 2012 risque d'être "agité" ne serait-ce que par certaines sectes. Plusieurs pays comme la France ont d'ailleurs commencé à mettre en place des campagnes de prévention.

Pour ce qui est du rapport entre Nostradamus, le calendrier Maya et Falun Gong, je n'ai jamais entendu ou lu quoi que ce soit sur le sujet.

Pour les prédictions de Nostradamus (comme bien d'autres hommes), on le sait, on peut y voir ce que l'on veut... Quand à savoir si c'est une doctrine officielle de la secte, il faudrait se renseigner à la source...

CE qui est tout de même intéressant, c'est selon ce texte, le PCC serait le mal et FG le bien et qu'il existe une guerre entre les deux... Et nous, que sommes nous au milieu de tout ça ?
Dynastie Qing
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24/06/2011 à 11:29 - Falun Gong, Nostradamus et calendrier Maya
Daweide a écrit :

CE qui est tout de même intéressant, c'est selon ce texte, le PCC serait le mal et FG le bien et qu'il existe une guerre entre les deux... Et nous, que sommes nous au milieu de tout ça ?

J'ai essayé d'être sobre et de ne pas me moquer de l'auteur ou de ses propos, mais je dois admettre que ce fut difficile, j'ai corrigé plusieurs fois mon commentaire avant de le publier ;-)
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Voici un blog encore en construction vous proposant une nouvelle approche concernant le quatrain le plus célèbre de Nostradamus. A vous d'interpréter cette technique et pensez à laisser un commentaire. Pour visualiser le site, rendez-vous sur Overblog et recherchez dans la barre de recherche : Nostradamus et Henri 2.

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